Trading as Gambling: Social Investing and Financial Risks on the r/WallStreetBets subreddit (2024)

Abstract

Financial trading has become commonplace, involving the purchase and sale of securities such as stocks and bonds. While HCI research has investigated people's financial literacy and decision-making and how to design for it, little is known as to how people form financial conversations on social media. To answer this question, we used a grounded theory approach to analyzing financial conversations in the YOLO ('you only live once') posts on the r/WallStreetBets subreddit (WSB), one of today's largest financial online communities. We describe how WSB's discursive culture portrays its gambling-like, high-risk trading by likening trading to gambling, celebrating it, and normalizing financial risk-taking. We discuss the rise of social investing, including how individual investors' affective relationships encourage their outsized risk-taking, as well as reflect on its looming financial risks, especially to already marginalized groups. Lastly, we propose implications for design and policymaking.

Original languageEnglish (US)
Title of host publicationCHI 2024 - Proceedings of the 2024 CHI Conference on Human Factors in Computing Sytems
PublisherAssociation for Computing Machinery
ISBN (Electronic)9798400703300
DOIs
StatePublished - May 11 2024
Event2024 CHI Conference on Human Factors in Computing Sytems, CHI 2024 - Hybrid, Honolulu, United States
Duration: May 11 2024May 16 2024

Publication series

NameConference on Human Factors in Computing Systems - Proceedings

Conference

Conference2024 CHI Conference on Human Factors in Computing Sytems, CHI 2024
Country/TerritoryUnited States
CityHybrid, Honolulu
Period5/11/245/16/24

All Science Journal Classification (ASJC) codes

  • Human-Computer Interaction
  • Computer Graphics and Computer-Aided Design
  • Software

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Kou, Y., Moradzadeh, S. (2024). Trading as Gambling: Social Investing and Financial Risks on the r/WallStreetBets subreddit. In CHI 2024 - Proceedings of the 2024 CHI Conference on Human Factors in Computing Sytems Article 357 (Conference on Human Factors in Computing Systems - Proceedings). Association for Computing Machinery. https://doi.org/10.1145/3613904.3642768

Kou, Yubo ; Moradzadeh, Sam ; Gui, Xinning. / Trading as Gambling : Social Investing and Financial Risks on the r/WallStreetBets subreddit. CHI 2024 - Proceedings of the 2024 CHI Conference on Human Factors in Computing Sytems. Association for Computing Machinery, 2024. (Conference on Human Factors in Computing Systems - Proceedings).

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Trading as Gambling: Social Investing and Financial Risks on the r/WallStreetBets subreddit. / Kou, Yubo; Moradzadeh, Sam; Gui, Xinning.
CHI 2024 - Proceedings of the 2024 CHI Conference on Human Factors in Computing Sytems. Association for Computing Machinery, 2024. 357 (Conference on Human Factors in Computing Systems - Proceedings).

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Trading as Gambling: Social Investing and Financial Risks on the r/WallStreetBets subreddit (2024)

FAQs

Is Wallstreetbets gambling? ›

While gambling often carries a negative connotation, WSB investors do not hesitate to explicitly admit that their trading behavior in financial markets coincides with gambling.

Is day trading essentially gambling? ›

Generally, day trading has more structure than gambling, but it does require thorough understanding and tools. Without the proper skills and knowledge, day trading could essentially be reduced to a form of gambling.

How is day trading different from gambling on Reddit? ›

In gambling it's impossible to control risks, if you set a bet you have 50% to win or lose your money. In day trading you have same 50% to win or lose, but you can set stop loss to lose less money in contrary to gambling.

Is intraday trading gambling reddit? ›

Its really not gambling if your using risk controls.

Is trading basically gambling? ›

Making some trades to appease social forces is not gambling in and of itself if people actually know what they are doing. However, entering into a financial transaction without a solid investment understanding is gambling.

What happened to Reddit WallStreetBets? ›

Reddit's administrators removed Rogozinski from the subreddit and banned him from moderating the community in April 2020, a month after he attempted to trademark the subreddit name. In February 2023 he filed a lawsuit against Reddit for breach of contract and trademark infringement, which was dismissed in July 2023.

How realistic is day trading? ›

Profiting from day trading is possible, but the success rate is inherently lower because it is risky and requires considerable skill. And don't underestimate the role that luck and good timing play. A stroke of bad luck can sink even the most experienced day trader.

Is day trading a losers game? ›

What Are the Financial Risks of Day Trading? The most obvious risk is losing money—sometimes all of it. Few day traders consistently earn a profit over time.

Do day traders even make money? ›

The same study found that the majority of trades, up to 80%, are unprofitable. While some day traders end up successful and make a lot of money, they are the exception rather than the norm. If you want to try day trading, start small and do not commit your entire investment account.

Who is the most successful day trader? ›

There are a lot of successful traders but Jesse Livermore is often regarded as the most successful day trader. His success came from trading on the capital earned by himself and by trading on setups made by himself.

Can I make a living from intraday trading? ›

Is intraday trading profitable? It may not be at first, but with a good deal of patience and research it can be. Never wait to generate huge profits in just a single trade; instead plan multiple trades and earn small profits. Many times, traders tend to overtrade, and they end up in losses.

Is it a sin to day trade? ›

Trading is wrong only when the person doing it is behaving foolishly instead of wisely. Foolishness is not immorality, nor is it sin. You must look at trading for what it is — a business. It has nothing to do with providing a service, or providing liquidity for others, nor does it involve producing a product.

Are options just gambling? ›

Successful options trading requires thorough research, analysis, and strategic planning. Traders often use technical and fundamental analysis, historical data, and market trends to make informed decisions. This contrasts with gambling, where outcomes are typically based on luck and chance.

Is the stock market just glorified gambling? ›

Primarily, stock ownership represents a fractional stake in a real-world business — one with assets, cash flows, and intrinsic value derived from its productive activities. This is quite different from gambling, which creates no new economic value but merely redistributes money between winners and losers.

Is sports trading gambling? ›

All successful sports traders are profitable because they are gambling with an edge. That edge will depend entirely on the individual. Some traders might be extremely knowledgeable about a particular sport. Others may have a good understanding of market forces which helps them to trade pre-race horse odds.

What is the point of WallStreetBets? ›

WallStreetBets (WSB) - a subreddit dedicated to conversations about options trading and stocks, often referred to simply as /r/wallstreetbets.

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